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Indigenous Language: The Heart Of The Home > The Human Challenge w/ Vanessa Ferlaino

Vanessa Ferlaino 4 September 2026 3852 6 1


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“It’s this really complex feeling where you’re feeling culture shock to what’s supposed to be your own culture,” says John-Paul Chalykoff, Indigenous performer and Assistant Professor of Anishinaabe Studies.

Inspired by his mother and grandmother, the last relative in his bloodline fluent in Anishinaabemowin, John-Paul comes on The Human Challenge to talk about his journey reconnecting to his Indigenous language roots, and how his puppet, Baabii, helps others do the same.

The Human Challenge is an award-winning podcast hosted and produced by Vanessa Ferlaino. The Human Challenge was recognized by Amazon Music and ACAST as an “Indie Podcast Amplifier.” Guess what? We’re on Rogers TV! Check us out there!

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Vanessa Ferlaino

Vanessa Ferlaino is an award-winning artist, born in Baawaating (Sault Ste Marie) in Northern Ontario. She has Hispanic and Italian-immigrant roots. Her mixed heritage gave her a unique perspective in society, not really buying into mainstream life, but also never really feeling like she fully belonged in either world. Her roots are deeply connected to the stories she tells in her music.

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